Tuesday, 6 March 2012

2012 Doomsday? Don’t Believe The Hype…

2012 Doomsday? Don’t Believe The Hype…

A friend recently brought something to my attention, Stephen Hamblin, a retired aeronautical engineering manager, posts on several internet forums some of which are related to astronomy, aeronautical topics & UFOs, in fact if you frequent any UFO-related forums then the chances are that you’ve already seen these posts.

They are to do with the ever increasing 2012 inspired scenarios of impending doom being vigorously promoted almost everywhere you look, whether this is the (real-world) mainstream-media or the internet they certainly appear to be gathering momentum. This is, I suspect, due in no small part to the History Channel and the plethora of shows it has dedicated to the topic.

2012 Hoax
He, who will not reason, is a bigot;
He, who cannot, is a fool;
And he, who dares not, is a slave.
(William Drummond)

However the most worrying aspect is that people are starting to listen to, and actually believe it, I’m not talking about its main proponents or their followers. I speak instead of the detrimental effect it is having on -some of- the younger generation. A quick look at the excellent website, “2012hoax.org” and it quickly becomes clear that the subject and the quasi-serious pseudoscientific way it is often presented makes it very difficult for those without any prior frame of reference to discern cynical, profit-driven entertainment from an honest, fact-driven presentation. Worse still this is leading to worry and in some cases despair as is evidenced by some of the comments posted at 2012hoax.org, an aspect which is also cited as being the inspiration for the video that Stephen has been posting, so here’s the video and an excerpt of the accompanying comment:

The Battle of Nibiru
For quite some time now I've been posting comments on the Facebook page of the excellent website 2012hoax.org. This is a site that was started by Bill Hudson - aka "astrogeek" - with the specific purpose of debunking the 2012 "Doomsday" nonsense because quite a few people, many of whom are children or teenagers are scared witless by this rubbish, even to the point of suicide in some cases. So Bill started the site in order to try to do something about it.

Since it started in January 2009 it has proved to be a great success, with many people visiting to get the scientific facts and many have thankfully been reassured as a result. The site has also attracted the support and visits of many well-known scientists, such as Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson and David Morrison, to mention just a few. As for the fictional planet Nibiru, this has often become tied in to the 2012 Doomsday predictions by the doom-peddlers and it is frequently discussed over on the website and on the Facebook page.
Now to the actual subject of this thread, "The Battle of Nibiru." In October last year Dr David Morrison of NASA uploaded the following video to Youtube, after he had received an e-mail from a 12 year-old girl saying she and her classmates were scared by it:

The entire 2012hoax.org website echoes this noble sentiment with the home page emphasising this with a chilling warning:
“Fear and ignorance can kill. Children are too gullible for these horrible rumors.”
Dr David Morrison, the person in the video, amongst many, many achievements is internationally known for his research on the solar system, he is the author of more than 155 technical papers and has published a dozen books, including the leading undergraduate college text in planetary science (for further details please visit 2012hoax.org).  After reading all of his credentials I’m sure you’ll agree that it makes him one of the most qualified people around to comment on the actual physical existence of Nibiru, as well of course as best placed to assess the validity of any evidence presented. Here’s another video by Dr Morrison that specifically addresses the 2012 doomsday theories:

There is no threat to earth in 2012. There is no danger. All of the talk about a doomsday is a big hoax perpetuated on the Internet and with people trying to make money. So please don't worry about it. Let me talk about some of the specific things. There has been a lot of talk about a "Planet-x", or a "Niburu" as a giant planet that's going to hit the earth or at least come very close in December 2012. The simple fact is Nibiru does not exist.


Again, all this 2012 talk is just a hoax. It's a fake. It's nothing you should worry about. I get questions from many people who are really scared, even some young people who have said they are contemplating suicide, this sort of thing. It's really sad. And the point of my talking to you now is just to explain to you that there is no problem there. And the many things you see on the Internet and Youtube where people claim that there is some horrible threat about to descend on us are not true. Don't worry about 2012, and enjoy 2013 when it comes.
(Dr David Morrison)

Morrison has been answering public questions at the NASA Astrobiology Institute on the, “Ask an Astrobiologist” page for several years, the excerpt that follows is from an excellent resource in that section titled, “Nibiru and Doomsday 2012: Questions and Answers”:

(20) If Nibiru is a hoax, why doesn’t NASA issue a denial? How can you permit these lies to circulate and frighten people? Why doesn’t the U.S. government do something about it!
If you go to the NASA home page, nasa.gov, you will see many stories that expose the Nibiru-2012 hoax. Try searching nasa.gov under “Nibiru” or “2012”. There is not much more that NASA can do. These hoaxes have nothing to do with NASA and are not based on NASA data, so we as an agency are not directly involved. But scientists, both within NASA and outside, recognize that this hoax with its effort to frighten people is a distraction from more important science concerns, such as global warming and loss of biological diversity. We worry about the effect of this fear on impressionable children. But we live in a country where there is freedom of speech, and that includes freedom to lie. You should be glad there are no censors. But if you will just use common sense I am sure you can recognize the lies. You can find a good summary of the scientific position on 2012 doomsday at http://2012hoax.org/.

I know the ‘truth’ is still regarded by some as quite a novel concept and regardless of what others want you to believe you it is NOT subjective, it simply ‘is’. This is essential to keep in mind where doomsday-fuelled conspiracy theories are concerned as once the myopic egocentricities are recognised and exposed for the shallow self-serving pomposities they inevitably are, hopefully they should start to lose their –already- limited appeal.

So the next time someone asks you about the 2012 ‘end times’ I trust you’ll know where to send them and who knows, eventually the doomsday prophecies may also relinquish the damaging hold they currently exert on popular culture but I for one am not holding my breath.

Until then, roll on 2013…..

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Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us - and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along.
Carl Sagan (The Fine Art of Baloney Detection)



Zvonko Pezelj said...

Dear Mr Naisbitt
Thank you for this web page we hope the humans on this earth don`t believe this crap with Nibiru!
But a blade have two sharp sides. The reason why the humans starting believe some stories, are the reason why Nasa (never a strait answer) including US government not really tell the truth. The humans lost her trust in this organisatons and have not any idea to believe this institutions. They cover and lying to much! And we no where they lying(To defend the US government somtimes they safe us but somtimes to hurt us). And second if it`s nothing really to scare why not one news channel inform the humans about the really truth about Nibiru! If you will safe lifes and money so publishing the real information on TV. We spend money for so much stupid things like war(21 century and war are already a solution shame) ore other nonsens.
I am from Switzerland and i don`t trust our government! why the hack i have to trust the US government? Never!! i like USA but sorry! and i know i am not alone!

Carol said...

I wonder if in your studies you have been to Zetatalk. They propose to know what the end time is and they are following PlanetX and plate movements that affect many countries. They have a huge following who are planning communities for the 'after time' They are Aliens who contact us thru a lady named Nancy.If you haven't gone there, you really should.I have been reading the site for years and I have to admit that many of their predictions have come true. I still withhold my judgement about them but read the site. They will block anyone who they think is going to be negative about them, so tread lightly if you want to read them.

Stephen Hamblin said...

@Zvonko Pezelj If NASA stands for "Never a Straight Answer," were they lying in the video Dr Morrison put out last year about Comet Elenin?

@Carol Both Zetatalk and Nancy Lieder's "Pole Shift" forum are complete bunk and I would strongly advise you to abandon them and read up on real science. Joining
your local astronomy club would be a good idea as well, since you are interested in the subject.

For a start, Nancy has been claiming that "Planet X" has been hiding behind the sun since about 2003 but all the photos she posted at Zetatalk are simply lens flare. It is simply not possible for a planet to behave in this way. See the article about Nibiru at http://www.2012hoax.org/nibiru which explains why it's not possible because of Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion.

In 2003, Nancy also advised people to drown their pets to save them from the horrors of the "pole shift" she claimed was coming in 2003.

And you won't find any comments on her forum debunking all this tripe with science, because Nancy favours censorship and only allows people who believe all her nonsense to post. A few months ago I started the signup process so I could go on there to debunk some of it, but after I completed the first part of the signup form with username and password etc, another screen then appeared with the following warning on it:

"Do you know that you will be suspended without explanation if you post anything that includes main establishment lies, disinformation or otherwise any material or links that try to obfuscate the truth about Planet X?"

I'm afraid hoaxers like Nancy Lieder, Patrick Geryl etc are dangerous, because many people, especially schoolchildren, become scared and in some cases can become suicidal. The reason the 2012hoax.org website was started was to try to do something about this in presenting the scientific facts.


Stephen Hamblin said...

Further to my previous comment. Re Nasa - One of the problems with the prophets of doom is that they always say "NASA this" and "NASA that" and "NASA hides information from the public" etc etc, as though NASA are the rulers and be all and end all regarding all things astronomy. But this is not the case at all. Much of the work is done by millions of amateur astronomers around the world and the rest by professional astronomers working at observatories.

Re Nibiru and Planet X - have you noticed how the proponents cannot agree on what it is or where it is? Some say it's a planet, others say it's a brown dwarf star and others still say it's a giant alien mothership. Nancy Lieder says it's a planet "hiding behind the sun." They can't agree on exactly where it is, or when it will arrive (it was supposed to have arrived in 2003 for a start.)

Astronomy is a very exact science when it comes to predicting the precise postions of heavenly bodies for millions of years into the future, and yet the Nibiru believers can't agree. Nibiru / Planet X is a work of fiction designed to make lots of money out of scaring people from book and dvd sales and worthless "survival kits."

If it was real and in our inner solar system, it would have been observed by now by millions of amateur astronomers around the world, but so far not a single one of them has. And neither have any of the professional astronomers, or NASA or any other space agency either.