Thursday, 25 November 2010

Dudley Dorito UFO - Redux

A timeline (of sorts) for the Dudley Dorito UFO and related news reports etc. is available here (2007 - 2010).



A ‘tounge-in-cheek' image posted
to
original Blog post back in 2007

I wanted to share a couple of observations regarding the Dudley Dorito UFO which has recently reappeared, firstly regarding the “Dorito” analogy it seems that this particular comparison was misrepresented much the same way as Arnold alleged his “saucer skipping over water” statement was morphed to “flying saucer”, i.e. at the merciless hands of an over exuberant reporter.

The witness had the following to say:


I estimated the plane was flying at its cruising altitude as at arms length the plane was approximately the size of a dot against your thumb and the black triangular object which was above the plane was approximately the size of a Dorito (tortilla crisp) at arms length (This is where the headlines in the newspapers quoted I said it was like a Dorito, where in fact I only used the word Dorito as an adjective to explain the size of the triangle compared to the size of plane).

Secondly, regarding the black triangle that is being haphazardly posted alongside several of the online articles and is now spreading through online forums & the Blogosphere as being the actual Dudley dorito object itself I just thought I'd try and dispel this myth before it gets any more of a foothold, the following article was originally posted on the 29th November 2007 & updated on the 4th December 2007.

The article (title) reads:

"UFO witness appeal - update.....Footage captured on film of the UFO is 'unusable' according to cameraman yet more witnesses come forward"

But more importantly it is the earliest image I could find of the black triangle UFO and it's from the BBC (Black Country section) and was FIRST posted 29th November 2007, which was only ONE DAY after the original Dudley Dorito UFO report .

dudley dorito ufo

However, at the foot of the page there is a disclaimer:

dudley dorito ufo

So apparently this image was never anything to do with the Dudley Dorito UFO as remember that this report was originally posted ONE DAY after the sighting that started it all.

Source: BBC (Black Country).



Still, I would have at least hoped that the publication that originally broke the story just weeks earlier wouldn't purposefully misrepresent the reports by implying that the image was somehow related, right?

dudley dorito ufo
Article/image source



And now look at the Daily Mail article covering the most recent Dudley Dorito UFO report, because as well as making misleading statements it purposefully misrepresents earlier facts presumably trying to muddy the water in a futile attempt to make it appear deeper than it really is, or alternatively the rumours are true and they never bother checking out the most basic of facts before churning out yet more bubblegum journalism…..

dudley dorito ufo

As you can see the intention is obvious as they actually state that this cropped, stretched and heavily pixelated zoomed image which they've ripped off another online article is the same that was allegedly photographed/reported in January of this year (2010) by posting the image accompanied with the text, “ A similar craft spotted above Welshpool, Mid Wales in January this year.”

No links supplied, no references, no names, no sources etc. etc. etc.

And much more importantly -as already shown- this was merely an image introduced into the original report by the irresponsible BBC apparently so that their mediocre article was a little more aesthetically pleasing, it has NO relevance to any of the Dudley dorito UFO reports and yet keeps cropping up in various online articles by both media corporations and independent websites, blogs etc.

dudley dorito ufo

Here's the UFO report that was posted by BUFOG by the original witness:



28/11/2007 - Quinton - Black Triangle UFO Sighting

I had returned from work at approximately 6.30pm and my girlfriend was in the kitchen preparing our daughters dinner. I greeted my daughter and played with her for approx 25 mins when my girlfriend called me to give our daughter her dinner. I collected her dinner from the kitchen and walked back through to the living room. The strange thing here was that instead of giving my daughter her food I put the dish on the fire place and walked straight outside through the patio doors - this was approx 7.00pm. I immediately looked directly to the eastern horizon where I noticed 3 faint red lights just above the roof tops of the house at the back of my house.

I watched for a few seconds to see if any signature flashes could be seen from the lights which would identify the lights as an aeroplane but there was no flashing at all. As the lights approached I could distinguish a triangular pattern with two lights at the bottom and one above. On the approach I noticed it was blacking out the stars in the sky and I realised it must be a solid object and not three separate objects. I instantly ran inside to collect my camcorder and went back outside to record the object.The object was travelling quite slowly and hadn't gained much distance in the time I went inside the house. I started to record the object and then realised I needed to report this. I phoned Mark Martin of the Birmingham UFO group as he lives close to me and thought he may be able to see it also. Unfortunately he was not at home but did manage to take my call. I had now been outside for approximately 3 mins and the object was now above me, I called my girlfriend to come and look as she could be a witness. The object was solid black and against the black sky it was not easily located as the red lights were also faint.

I pointed the objects location to my girlfriend who was also shocked when she saw it. I noticed as it passed over us that not only was it blocking out the stars but it actually was blocking out whole constellations. As we stood their watching in amazement I was concentrating my attention on the camcorder display screen, trying to make sure I had the object in focus. I couldn't actually see the object in the view finder as the sky being black and the object was black my camera wasn't sensitive enough to differentiate the two. At this point my girlfriend said "They must be able to see it". "Who", I said. "Them in that plane". I looked at the object and noticed a commercial plane was flying underneath the object.

I estimated the plane was flying at its cruising altitude as at arms length the plane was approximately the size of a dot against your thumb and the black triangular object which was above the plane was approximately the size of a Dorito (tortilla crisp) at arms length (This is where the headlines in the newspapers quoted I said it was like a Dorito, where in fact I only used the word Dorito as an adjective to explain the size of the triangle compared to the size of plane) We watched the object pass over us and watched until it disappeared into the horizon, which would have been heading in the Stourbridge direction. The object made no sound at all and travelled extremely slow, we stayed outside after the object has disappeared for approximately another 2 mins, we then heard a loud raw of a jet engine overhead, I was able to distinguish this from a commercial plane as we live in the flight path for Birmingham international airport and commonly hear low flying planes overhead.

I have also attending for many years the air display show of military craft at RAF Cosford, and this sound of plane did sound like a military jet. As soon as I went inside I phoned Steve Poole of UFO Research Midlands and reported the sighting to him. Steve contacted me the following day and informed me a colleague of his had called him 10 mins after I did and they also reported seeing a triangular object close to Redditch. My first thought was that is was a F117 USAF stealth bomber, but I soon came to the conclusion that if this particular type of aircraft was doing a flyover of Birmingham then almost all aeroplane enthusiasts would be aware, surely airspace would be restricted to commercial flights, would this type of aircraft fly over an international airport whilst numerous commercial planes were quite visible in close proximity to it. And finally, I may be wrong but I would have thought that if this type of aircraft was flying over an international city and airport that it wouldn't be flying solo, at least it would be escorted by other military jets.

On Friday morning at 6.20am a witness in Walsall reported into a local radio station that whilst walking his dog he saw a large black triangle object flying over him he then noticed two military jets pursued the object. He said he had never seen anything so big. As reported by myself, the footage is inconclusive due to the object does not stand out from the black sky. I recall filming approximately 3 mins of footage but on play back only 33 seconds have been recorded. I must note that on another separate sighting on 3rd November I videoed an unidentified object 4 times, when watching this footage back only 2 recordings worked.

These sightings are still being investigated by BUFOG and UFORM, if you have any further details or witnessed the sighting then please contact us.

Craig Lowe, BUFOG

Source: BUFOG



And while I was looking for the source of the image I happened across another similar report at the BUFOG website from June 2007 (five months before the 'original' report) which struck me as being wrote in a very similar style to the later one as well of course as being from the exact same location. Unfortunately Dave Hodrien or Craig Lowe (or whoever posted the report to the BUFOG website) didn't mention whether they believed this report to be related to the later one or vice versa and neither did they mention if any attempts had been made to retrieve the digital footage from the camera's hard-drive (which the witness describes below).


16/06/2007 - Quinton - Black Oval/Triangular UFO Sighting

Approx 8.32pm I witnessed a strange object in the sky..I live in Birmingham . I have had an interest in military aircraft since the age of 14, now 32. I know the signature patterns of aircraft and helicopter strobes and flight dynamics so the identification of an aircraft I can make instantly. I have been an amateur astronomer for over 10 years and own my own 10" Newtonian telescope with observatory so even the faintest satelite or space anomaly I can identify. To put it short, my eyes are quite well trained and not as naive as the general public.I have had a keen interest for most of my life with Ufology and have read many if not most of the ufo literature.

Timothy Good has received a copy of this email. I have read many case reports and sightings so I know what could be easily described as a ufo when a plain answer is available..Thats a little about me so that you can see It would have to be something strange to catch my eye and completely baffled me..

Heres my sighting,

I was standing by my patio door having a cigarette and my wife had just gone in the bath, whilst smoking I noticed a black object in the sky approx 3 miles away (1 mile from Birmingham city centre) at first it could be confused with a hawk hovering at close range, but over a heavily populated area, I think not..I continued to watch the object as my mind was trying to match what i was seeing to an object I could relate to, i couldn't.

The object was black, no lights no sound.It seemed to be oval shaped and on ocassions changed to a triangle shape. Visibilities was very good, clear sky with a few rain clouds to the horizon and a few brillant white clouds which were being illuminated by the sun..I watched for an estimated 1 min 30 secs before accepting that this could be a ufo.

I have a 9 moth old daughter and just she was born we decided to purchase a digital hard drive camcorder.I decided to fetch this knowing more than likely when i return the object will have disapeared. I returned with the camera and noticed the object was still there, only now it was on the move. I powered up my camera and started to film the object. The digital display on the camera is approx 3 inches in size so I couldn't tell if i had the object in view or even in focus, but i continued to film.The object moved over the trees and towards the horizon and finally diapeared behind a cloud..I stopped filming and took a few minuetes to gather my thoughts on what i had just seen. My wife soon came down from the bath and i told her what i had witnessed, her usual reaction to this subject is a load of nonsense but she seemed interested. She thought it may be genuine if i can't identify it, who knows..Another point to this incident is that we live directly under one of the flight paths for aircraft circuling to await there landing at Birmingham international airport. The sky above us is always busy with air traffic. I didn't see a single aircraft for over 1 and half hours which is very strange for an international airport at weekends..My ideal reactions would have been to have notified the local police of a potential unidentified object within a flight path and even contact air traffic control as reading as many ufo books as i have i know how important recordable data is, but strange enough i did what most general public do, i thought how strange and just sat down going over in my mind what i had just witnessed. The only plausable thing i did was to email UFORM straight away..Although the obect was quite far away, with a trained eye i could just about identify its shapes. We decided to watch the video to see if you could see the little dot in the sky and to our amazment we captued 2 mis 32 secs of the ordeal, and the footage is very clear.

you can even see the automatic focus of the camera intermitantly experiencing difficulties in keeping the object in focus.

The focus was set to infinity but with the object being in the distance and trees to the rear of my garden being in the shot it was making it very difficult for the camera to concentrate on both items, although this slight problem the footage is very clear and amazing.

Source: BUFOG



A timeline (of sorts) for the Dudley Dorito UFO and related news reports etc. is available here (2007 - 2010).

Sunday, 21 November 2010

Echo Flights Of Fantasy & Flat Earth Nukes

James Carlson recently posted a comment on an earlier article in which I quoted him and Robert Hastings regarding the 1967 Echo Flight incident at Malmstrom AFB, Montana where it is alleged (and until recently pretty much accepted as fact) that a UFO was present and interfered with the operations of the missiles resulting in (10) nuclear missiles going ‘offline' or more simply making them –temporarily- unavailable by taking them off of strategic alert.

James took it upon himself to independently investigate the incident which was made considerably easier by the fact that he is the son of Captain (Retired) Eric D. Carlson, the commander of Echo Flight on March 16, 1967. And James says in his latest update, “That all of the details and descriptions of events and reports that his father would have been witness to have been confirmed by him as accurate.”

And the following is the comment posted by James:



Echo Flights of Fantasy – Anatomy of a UFO Hoax

I wanted to let you and your readers know that I've recently posted a new article on scrib'd entitled “Echo Flights of Fantasy – Anatomy of a UFO Hoax”.

It's located at: scribd.com and I'd like to know what you think.

It's written as a general article regarding the Echo Flight hoax that's been perpetrated since 1995, but since this hoax was only made possible as a result of the UFO rumors that were associated with the original event in 1967, I particularly wanted to account for them.

I have no doubt that the conclusions I've reached explain everything sufficiently. I've been fortunate enough to have been granted access to a number of personal records regarding the suspicions voiced by NICAP investigators at the time, and examined with all the benefits of hindsight, they make it very clear how those persistent yet inexact and poorly defined rumors came about and why they have continued to have any influence at all, even though they were entirely baseless, irrational, and lacking an appropriate foundation.

It also makes very clear that the poor research conducted by UFO “investigators” and “analysts” since that time is the only reason such rumors have been given any “second wind” at all.

If it wasn't for such people and their persistent refusal to look at all of the evidence available, nothing about the Echo Flight Incident would ever have been considered “memorable”, let alone one of the top ten UFO incidents supported by the most reliable evidence.

Thank you — and I hope you read it; like everything else I've made available in this field, it's free.

Full text available at: Echo Flights of Fantasy – Anatomy of a UFO Hoax



And also today (Sunday 21st November 2010) Dr David Clarke has also addressed this issue amongst others as promoted and perpetuated by Robert Hastings, an excerpt follows:

FLAT EARTH NUKES

…An industry whose task should be to filter out falsehood has become a conduit for propaganda…” Nick Davies, Flat Earth News


(Image Source)

But cut through the spin and it becomes clear there was and is no senior credible military source. The story originates from a publicity-hungry American UFOlogist, Robert Hastings. Hastings worked as a lab technician before retirement and now devotes himself full-time to pushing the UFO Disclosure agenda via books and lectures. He appears to have no particular expertise other than an obsession with proving a link between UFOs and nuclear weapons.

Hastings feels it is his “patriotic duty as an American citizen” to break the international cover-up and bring The Truth to the attention of the public. Let's be clear what Hastings believes: according to the Daily Mail, he claims “Earth is being visited by beings from another world who for whatever reason have taken an interest in the nuclear arms race”.

In my view, Robert Hastings is simply following in the footsteps of Adamski and King but dressing up his beliefs in a way that appeals to “scientific UFOlogists” of the 21st century who would not want to be associated with contactee cults.

THE UFO-NUKE BANDWAGON BEGINS ROLLING….

In September Hastings hired the Washington Press Club as a platform to reveal his “evidence”. It consisted of testimony from a tiny group of ex-military “credible witnesses” who have joined the ET/disclosure bandwagon.

One of Hastings's key witnesses is Captain Robert Salas who claims that on one occasion in 1967 a UFO hovered directly over a nuclear weapons store at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana. Salas maintains that as a direct result of this incident ten Minuteman nuclear missiles malfunctioned. Taken at face value, Salas's story sounds impressive. But virtually every evidential detail has been questioned by James Carlson, whose late father Eric, also a Captain in the USAF, was present during the incident. Carlson senior insisted that UFOs had absolutely nothing to do with the failure of the missile system and his son has published factual evidence that points to a complex equipment malfunction. There is also clear evidence that Salas has changed his story on several occasions.

Hastings and Carlson jnr are now locked in an online flame war over Salas's claims and the interpretation of statements made by a third USAF officer, Walt Figel. Carlson says Figel's testimony is consistent with his father's evidence that no UFOs were involved. Hastings has published tape transcripts that suggest Figel was told about a UFO sighting by technicians working on the missiles.

Source: Dr David Clarke (Rest of article at Clarke's Blog)


Thursday, 18 November 2010

Mein Gott, Only 210 YouTube views?! (Hitler rants about UFOs)

Mein Gott, nur 210 YouTube Ansichten?

The following was recently posted to YouTube almost a day ago now by a user named *bloodyhellisthattrue*.

It’s a Hitler ‘downfall parody’ titled:

“Hitler rants about UFO’s”

And whilst it may contain a little choice language (subtitled) when presented in the context which it is then it’s still absolutely hilarious and is also ‘right on the money’.

Yet tragically it has gone relatively unnoticed (so far) which in itself is nothing short of a travesty, and so on that note.

Enjoy…..

(Forum post & large video here)

Thursday, 11 November 2010

Armistice Day - Lest we forget.....

Armistice Day - Remembrance Day 11/11/2010
“Who would've noticed another madman around here.”

One of the darkest hours of recent history is splendidly portrayed by Blackadder et al. It's 1917 and captain Blackadder is in the trenches of the First World War and preparing to go, “Over the top”.

A tragic and harrowing story that shares the hopelessness of the situation and the general futility of war, the climax is a sorrowful and extremely poignant final scene when Blackadder and his men finally go over the top and lead the charge into No-Man's-Land, before the haunting final image masterfully dissolves into a poppy-filled field.....



“Millions have died but the troops have advanced no further
than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping.”





In Flanders Fields
John McCrae, May 1915

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep,
though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Wednesday, 10 November 2010

James Carlson vs Robert Hastings (UFOs & Nukes Update)

I’ve made a few Blog posts about Robert Hastings and James Carlson’s ongoing and very public dispute, a short while ago (Oct 25th 2010) Robert Hastings posted the details of some of his witnesses relating to UFOs and nuclear missiles before proceeding to make a rather strange request relating to Carlson, indeed the title of the Blog post by Hastings was: “The James T. Carlson Problem Robert Hastings Requests Your Assistance”

And the following was posted (by Hastings) at Frank Warren’s website (The UFO Chronicles) as well as at least one other venue frequented by the majority of the online UFO community, and has since been reposted across the internet:


“The James T. Carlson Problem
Robert Hastings Requests Your Assistance”

Now, although these courageous individuals have come forward and divulged their involvement in still-classified incidents, in the hope of raising public awareness, a UFO debunker named James T. Carlson has been posting countless items online over the past two years, calling these veterans (and others who were involved in the missile shutdown incidents) liars, or worse. In particular, Bob Salas and I have been singled-out for his wrath. Carlson’s father, Eric Carlson, was one of two missile launch officers who were present at Malmstrom’s Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, when all 10 of their ICBMs shut down.

While the senior Carlson claims not to remember any mention of a UFO being present at the time, the other officer, now-retired Col. Walter Figel, has told me, and Salas, that he received a report of a “large, round” UFO hovering over one of the missile sites just moments after it failed, and shortly before the other nine malfunctioned as well. Figel also verified that other security personnel subsequently corroborated the presence of the UFO. All of these admissions are on audio tape and one may listen to them via links in my article “The Echo/Oscar Witch Hunt”, posted at The UFO Chronicles website.

Unfortunately, James T. Carlson believes his father’s version of events—that no UFOs were present at Echo Flight when the missiles went down—and has spent the last two years slandering and libeling anyone who contradicts this claim. James has further alleged that Bob Salas has completely fabricated the story of his own involvement in a second shutdown incident, at Oscar Flight, even though the other officer present at the time, retired Col. Fred Meiwald, has verified its reality.
In any case, the time has come for me to take inventory, in preparation for a possible legal action: While I am aware of numerous posts by James Carlson about all of this—on blogs at several websites—I’m certain that I’ve missed many more, given that they run into the hundreds at this point. So, I am seeking the reader’s assistance:

I am asking that persons who want to the truth about the incidents at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 to be established—once and for all—to scour the Internet and locate posts in which Carlson has referred to me (or Bob Salas) as a “fraud”, a “liar” a “hoaxer” or similar defamatory terms. I am also interested in posts where James claims that he has “proved” that Mr. Salas and I have misrepresented the facts. Those willing to assist me in this regard should send me links to the offending posts via ufohastings@aol.com.



And the RealityUncovered website which has been giving Carlson a voice for the last few months has today (11th Nov 2010) posted a response in the format of an open letter from Carlson to Hastings:


JAMES CARLSON’S OPEN LETTER TO ROBERT HASTINGS

Since Robert Hastings refuses all emails from me, regularly discards any comments I post regarding his claims on UFOCHRONICLES, and refuses entirely to comment or present arguments in relation to the issues I’ve raised, a tactic contrary in every way to prior assertions welcoming public discourse and debate, I have decided to post this response to his consideration of legal action targeting me for insisting that he and Salas are liars, frauds, and hoaxers, and that I can prove it.

Dear Robert Hastings,

In light of your recent public appeals for examples of internet-based “libel” authored by me — statements that you imply can be proven as such sufficient to sway popular opinion within the suitable confines of a court of law — I have the following statement, and request a response:

First, you have loudly and persistently affirmed since March 2010 that the written statements I received from Colonel (Retired) Walter Figel, Jr. were false statements, and that my claims of having interviewed him were simply lies intended to basically raise doubts regarding
your interpretations of your own interviews with him.

In your September 26, 2010 article, “
The Echo/Oscar Witch Hunt“, for instance, you assert that:
“James Carlson …has consistently lied about the colonel’s various comments to researchers.”

You also claim that
“Colonel Figel disputes all of Eric Carlson’s claims.”

In light of the fact that both you and Robert Salas called Figel
the day following my first interview with him in March, and that the written statement detailing his opinions regarding your poor interpretation of the events he experienced was also sent to you, do you still insist that I have been lying since last March, and that I have, in fact, never spoken to Colonel Figel, as you have told others?

Follow-up questions to this line of thought include:

(1) Since your transcripts of your interviews with Figel are obviously incomplete, why don’t they include any
complete assertions regarding the presence of a UFO? Nowhere in your transcripts is there a clear and definitive statement regarding any report of a UFO. In the interviews and written statements that he was immediately willing to share with me, his statements are very definitive: there was no UFO reported, no UFO was involved, and no investigation of a UFO was undertaken. He was very clear in this regard — with me. Why not with you, or did you just edit that part out of your transcripts in order to create the impression of a UFO where none could be otherwise reasonably established?

That’s why I asked for and received a written statement from him that was complete and to the point.

(2) Did you ever follow up your investigation with Dick Evans, as Figel suggested? He was, after all, a witness to both the personnel portion of the incident, and was later involved with the actual investigation as well, so his comments would be very interesting to your readers, I would think, unless, of course, he told you the same thing that Figel insists he told both you and Salas, this being the fundamentals of what he also told me and Ryan Dube — that there were no UFOs involved in the incident.

In general, I’d like to know exactly what I’ve allegedly lied about. Was my interview with Figel a lie? Or was it Ryan Dube who lied? Because, remember, Figel addressed
his questions as well. Or maybe I should ask, and this is the fun part, am I lying when I insist that I can easily prove how badly you’ve maligned this issue, how blatantly you’ve misin‌terpreted Figel’s statements to you in the past, and how often you yourself have lied and twisted this issue around, and that I can do so by simply asking Walt Figel what happened?

Because that’s exactly what I did prior to his last statement — you know, the strongly worded one in which he insists that Robert Salas has been lying about this matter since 1995.

You remember, don’t you? It’s that written statement of his that can’t possibly be misinterpreted by anybody, even you — the statment that I couldn’t possibly twist around to make it seem somehow less damaging to your story; it’s that statment of Figel’s that you seem to blaiming on me to such an extent that you’re considering (and I find this particularly laughable) legal action.

Tell me, do you intend to sue Figel and my father as well? ‘Cause I’ve got to tell you, they’ve said the same things I have, but they’ve done so with a Hell of a lot more authority than I could ever muster.

Tell me, are
all of your UFO investigations conducted so dishonestly, in order to create an issue that doesn’t otherwise exist? Why do you consistently refuse to answer any of the questions put to you about this one case? Why do you regularly delete my commentaries on UFOCHRONICLES rather than comment on them as any honest man would? Why is it so easy to confirm your complete and utter disregard for the facts by simply interviewing your own witnesses?

What exactly are you trying to hide, and why do you even bother, when destroying your case is as easy as conducting a fairly general conversation with intelligent men? Or is it the “intelligent men” part that throws you off?

Humor me, please, with another line of thought:

During the press conference you and Salas organized for September 27, 2010 at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, did Robert Salas publically proclaim, in answer to one of the questions presented by a member of the audience, that both my father, Captain (Retired) Eric D. Carlson, the commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, and his deputy commander on that date, Colonel (Retired) Walter Figel, Jr.,
confirmed his testimony regarding UFO interference on that date?

This bit strikes me as particularly odd, because only rarely will someone make such a claim only two days after
both men had very publically and definitively insisted otherwise. Was that just a “brain fart”, or is he just lying again to make another worthless point in front of the press?

That’s all I’ve got for you — just a few little questions. An answer would be appreciated, although I admit, it’s a little difficult to even ask you these questions for the reasons I’ve already indicated above.

I am curious to know why you profess to believe in the necessity for public discourse where issues involving UFOs are concerned, while your every act shows the opposite — or does public discourse only apply to the USAF, and not those individuals who are trying to substantiate a ridiculous UFO hoax of this nature?

It looks to me like you do a whole lot of running away from questions, as if answering them would somehow show you to be the ridiculous little liar and fraud that I’ve already shown you to be. You know, Robert, you don’t need to ask other people to do your research for you — although I understand that’s what you’re used to doing; you know, like advertising for UFO stories on the Internet, so you can write them up and call them “facts”, and insist that the USAF needs to come clean on UFOs. Isn’t that your modus operandi?

Let me make this easier for you — that way you don’t have to bother all the nice people who read your tripe to bring you examples of my slanders and libel. I’ll just give you what you want, because it’s so much easier, and because I’d really like to get you to actually sue me — I think litigation would be a suitably pathetic way for you to go down in history as the ineffectual UFO “researcher” you really are if you did it all by yourself in front of a jury!

Now then, what are the words I’m looking for? Oh, yeah!

You, Robert Hastings, currently a resident of Albuquerque, New Mexico, are a
liar, a fraud, and a UFO hoaxer of the worst kind, and I can and have proven this to be true. I really hope you challenge me in court, because I would enjoy destroying what little worth your current reputation can lay claim to.

You’re a ridiculous scoundrel, and the fact that you are completely unable to answer any detailed questions regarding the events you have proposed simply adds to the mess that your own lies have created for you. The fact that you seem to think you’re believable enough to take this matter to court is absolutely hilarious, and I look forward to the article you will eventually write and publish on UFOCHRONICLES insisting that you have no intention of taking me to court, because you’re the better man, or some such silly B.S., leaving out the part where you finally realized doing so would humiliate
you completely.

I give you 30 days.

Most sincerely,

James Carlson



As I’ve said in the past my only desire regarding this disagreement is to present both sides of the debate, and more specifically regarding the 1967 Malmstrom AFB incident, seeing as both parties can’t be right due to their diametrically opposing stance & statements, well, I personally feel that after all of the related information I’ve read & related documentaries & press conferences etc. I’ve viewed that I for one deserve to be told the truth.

In fact all I’ve ever wanted is the truth.....

How about you?