Sunday, 12 September 2010

Malmstrom AFB Missile UFO Incident

Firstly Frank Warren's website, “The UFOChronicles” recently posted some more information regarding the infamous (alleged) Malmstrom AFB Missile UFO Incident of March 1967 and -as has apparently happened before- removed a VERY valid comment relating to the veracity of the claims:



Former Boeing Engineer, Robert Kaminski Confirms UFO Activity at Echo Flight Missile Launch Control Facility in 1967 (Friday, September 10, 2010)

Excerpt: Letter To Jim Klotz - By Robert Kaminski (2-1-1997)

Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigation team to survey the LCF [Echo Launch Control Facility] and the LFs [Launch Facilities, or silos] to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause. The team was made up of qualified engineers and technicians headed by scientific person who was a glaciologist. There were about 5 persons in all that were sent out. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF's and LF's interconnectivity.

[After months of investigation,] the team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event. The team went off to do the report. Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative at OOAMA (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event—That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF [sic] at the time E-Flight went down.

Subsequently, we were notified a few days later, that a stop work order was on the way from OOAMA to stop any further effort on this project. We stopped. We were also told that we were not to submit the final engineering report. This was most unusual since all of our work required review by the customer and the submittal of a final Engineering report to OOAMA.

Source: The UFO Chronicles



The person who posted the comment was a Mr James Carlson who has earlier stated that on March 16, 1967, his father was on watch with Walt Figel at Echo Flight, shortly after he awoke from his sleep period, and during the time Figel was debriefing him on the mundane events of the previous night, his father (CAPT Eric D. Carlson) who was the MCCC at Echo Flight that morning, noticed that the missiles started going offline, because he happened to be the one facing the monitors.



And here is the since deleted comment posted by Mr James Carlson:

Source: James Carlson/RU Forums



This is reproduced here for no other reason than to present both sides of the story.


Truth is not only violated by falsehood;
it may be equally outraged by silence.

4 comments:

James said...

Recent media advertisements have announced a September 27, 2010 press conference at the National Press Club, Washington, DC to address the “issue of UFO incursions at U.S. nuclear weapons sites" (see http://www.ufohastings.com/PressPage.html). The individuals organizing this discussion – Robert Salas, author of Faded Giant, and Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes – intend to pay for this farce with public donations. Because numerous witnesses to what has been poorly described as "one of the top ten UFO cases best supported by the evidence" – the incident alleged in the book Faded Giant, and set as a primary point of discussion for the announced conference – have asserted convincingly that no such interference by UFOs ever occurred, we consider this sham a criminal act. It is our intention to present the actual facts of this case to members of the press so they will be prepared well enough to ask participants the necessary hard questions to prevent the press conference from turning into a pile of otherwise insignificant fluff intended to stoke civil demands for full disclosure of classified materials discussing such incidents. Such people should not have any voice whatsoever regarding the disposition of classified materials maintained by the Department of Defense, and political and military agendas of this sort should not be determined on the basis of lies. Those organizing this conference generate paranoia for money. A firm belief that there are plenty of confirmed and tangible characteristics of modern life that we actually should be paranoid about, coupled with strong proof that this conference is based primarily on easily disputed arguments and undeniable lies that have no basis in historical values or facts establishes this need. If they are going to hold a press conference, the press should be prepared to establish the conscious deceit of the American public.


The organizers of this event have claimed that in March 1967, on two different occasions – March 16 and March 24 – UFOs interfered with the normal operations of two silo complexes attached to Malmstrom AFB, Montana and armed with nuclear tipped Minuteman I missiles as a facet of U.S. defensive forces. These alleged events occurred at Echo Flight on March 16, and at Oscar Flight on March 24. These claims have been strongly disputed by the USAF officers manning these launch facilities, the only exception being Robert Salas, who is quite literally selling his alleged recollections to the general public. If people want to understand the actual events of March 1967, including the incidents at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight, we encourage you to examine without any cost whatsoever the narrative discussing these incidents at http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson, and more recent discussions at http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688&sid=da8c688fe79cb16fb02369bcdb065e69, all of which will eventually be added to the original Americans, Credulous narrative. We strongly recommend an examination of the interviews and facts that have been introduced at http://www.realityuncovered.net , specifically the four most recent articles entitled "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident, March 1967", "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident – Part II", "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident – Part III", and "An Interview With Malmstrom AFB Witness Eric Carlson", all four of which were written by Ryan Dube.

James said...

The commander of Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, MAJ (Ret.) Eric D. Carlson, very recently released the following statement:


"Let me start by stating that, as best as I can recall, my only contact with Salas and Hastings has been on the phone. I did tell Salas that he could release my name to whomever he wished, don't know why he needed my permission. I have talked to a newspaper writer in Great Falls, several years ago, and a TV producer from one of those UFO shows. With both these individuals I denied any knowledge of any UFO's at Malmstrom. In addition, I stated that there was no, repeat no, incident at Oscar flight as Salas maintains. The man is either lying or delusional.


"My only contact with Hastings was a call I received from him regarding his book. I stated that his book sounded interesting and he later sent me a copy which I read and gave away…


"My memory is quite good regarding the events at Malmstrom and there is no doubt in my mind that there were no reports of UFO's and no incident at Oscar flight."


His deputy commander at Echo Flight, COL (Ret.) Walter Figel, Jr., has insisted as well that UFOs were not involved, and asserts that his version of this event has been distorted by both Robert Salas and Robert Hastings in order to give the impression that an actual UFO was involved. He insists that no UFOs were involved, nor were UFOs reported.


Robert Salas' commander at Oscar Flight, Frederick Meiwald, insists that he doesn't even believe in UFOs – a strange comment to make in light of Salas' insistence that a UFO took out the missiles at Oscar Flight during an incident that not only resulted in an injury to one non-commissioned officer, requiring that man to be evacuated from the site by helicopter, but also emptied completely the security command post of all armed personnel in order to face down this UFO threat. One would probably expect the commander of Oscar Flight, after experiencing such a tumultuous watch, to have changed his opinions regarding the existence of UFOs, and yet, it has not.


It is a remarkable and shameful measure of journalism in the world today that the press has ignored the insistences of these primary witnesses, preferring instead to rest their reporting with the prevarications of people like Hastings and Salas. These men have been repeatedly interviewed and catered to by men like Larry King, and yet the easily confirmed insistences of all other witnesses that UFOs were not observed, reported, or investigated has been entirely ignored by the world press. This is a disgusting indictment of journalism in America today.


Any members of the press who have questions regarding the narrative Americans, Credulous, the ongoing discussions in the Reality Uncovered forums, the associated articles written by Ryan Dube, or who wish to discuss the matter with those present in March 1967, are encouraged to contact James Carlson at jtcarl@yahoo.com . His father, MAJ (Ret.) Eric D. Carlson, was the commander of Echo Flight in March 1967, and was present when all ten missiles were taken off of strategic alert by an electronic noise pulse generated internally at the launch control facility. The incident was very well documented and was thoroughly investigated, and every word that Robert Salas and Robert Hastings have ever said on the subject has been repeatedly proven false. These people are shameless, as is the press apparatus that has elevated this ridiculous little children's bedtime story to its commonly accepted position as one of the top ten UFO cases supported by the best evidence.


We request those members of the press in attendance on September 27 to ask penetrating questions, thereby holding these men accountable for the paranoia they profit from, the lies they tell, the many lives they have been prepared to reduce in stature for their own aggrandizement, and the reputations they have consciously set out to diminish.

manuel said...

The cookies at the conference reported by lifestyles reporter most like were great. As for the rest of the menu oddly I agree with you in a perverse sort of way. That is the best evidence ufology has at the moment.
If we can harness the power of anecdotal testimony, we could been to the stars by now.

manuel said...

my post was in reference to the Warren Post